As pretty much everyone knows, Joe Rogan is one of the most famous podcasters in the U.S.
Rogan has 14.5 million followers on Spotify, which recently paid him $250 million to renew his contract. He also has a large following on YouTube and other social media channels.
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Rogan uses his platform to discuss a wide range of topics, from Ultimate Fighting Championship events to politics to comedy and current events. Rogan also provides fitness tips, as well as science and health advice – although there have been controversies in the past as to whether this advice was solid, especially during Covid.
Now, Rogan has taken on another topic that matters a great deal to Americans: the quality and nutritional value of their food.
The subject arose on The Joe Rogan Experience when Rogan was talking with Jim Norton, a comedian who appeared on his show in episode #2342 on June 25, 2025.
Rogan had some very firm opinions on the subject, which he shared with his audience in order to warn them about what he sees as the dangers of a food most people have in their pantries on a regular basis.
Podcaster Joe Rogan had a lot to say about a popular food item.
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Rogan has a blunt 4-word warning about this common food item
The food that Rogan was so passionate about is one you wouldn’t necessarily expect to prompt such strong emotions, but the Podcast host had a lot to say about a basic staple: bread.
Norton and Rogan were discussing the differences between Europeans and Americans. Norton said he believes that differences in the quality of bread explain why Americans often feel tired and unwell after eating it, when Europeans don’t.
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Norton described bread as “poison,” and Rogan not only agreed but also had a video ready to share on the subject, which he said came from another comedian, Brian Simpson. (Apparently, bread is a hot topic among the country’s comedians.)
“Simpson sent me this and he said, ‘I think I’m done with bread,’ and I was like…oh my God, this is kind of crazy,” Rogan said. The video, which Rogan played in full for his audience, explained some of the “problems” with our bread.
It also prompted Rogan to issue a blunt four-word warning: “Stay away from bread.”
Rogan did make an exception for sourdough, though, which he believes is OK, and he also said that “It won’t matter if it’s World War 3, but if it’s not World War 3, stay away.”
Why is bread so bad?
The video Simpson sent was created by Dennis Echelbarger, who explained the following:
“About 200 years ago, we started stripping the bran and germ of the fiber in nutrients to make flour shelf stable, also nutritionally dead. Because the nutrients were gone, we enriched it with folic acid, which a large majority of the population can’t even metabolize; therefore, many people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and inflammation.”
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The video went on to claim that we then had to bleach bread with chlorine gas because it wasn’t white enough, and had to add a carcinogen called potassium bromate because it didn’t rise enough, even though potassium bromate is banned in other countries. And, the video said that the use of glyphosate to ramp up wheat production also caused endocrine disruption.
The result, as Echelbarger explained in the video? “Now you’re bloated, brain fogged, tired, and blaming gluten. But gluten is just the scapegoat. The real issue is ultra-processed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin-filled wheat soaked in glyphosate. This isn’t bread.”
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Rogan believes these issues with bread are likely the reason he feels better when he cuts the food out of his diet, and he urges his listeners to do the same, except, of course, for sourdough.
These claims were not officially fact-checked, and there are no links to peer-reviewed science. So those who do want to keep bread in their diet should do their own research, as the quality and nutritional value of various breads can vary greatly.
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